Thursday, September 25, 2008

It's Chess I Tell Ya

Batshee the Thesaurus mangler has surfaced to try to mitigate the damage of the season 4 DVDs and utter lack of pro-jate comments or extras by posting another of her ridiculously longwinded essays. Here's an abridged version to spare you the tedium.

"TPTB are the equivalent of salesmen trying to sell a product-the triangle b/c it brings talk and ratings. It's the nature of television politics.

I've seen it debated that "marketing" aka hype is only designed to be reflective of popularity & reverence. Therefore b/c Skate is being propped and Jate is not, it means it's better and the OTP. Well, a frequent tactic used by marketers of movies is to isolate the positive comments about the movie & put them in quotes in an ad. I.e a critic may have called a movie "outrageously bad but it had some good moments"-yet all you see in the paper is "outrageously" "good". More specific to this topic-there were portions of Pro-Jate comments by Evi taken out of interviews in Lost mag (namely the post ID issue which was Skate heavy) and the question is why? If not to ride the coat tails of the "Kate definitively chose Sawyer" hype for the 13 week hiatus, which obviously turned out not to be true. And we knew at the time too it couldn't be true b/c of the SHOW and how Kate said she can't leave w/o Jack.

Marketing, by definition is a game with the consumer. And again, it becomes about who is the better chess player. Do you buy everything you see just b/c they say its good or something is the current "it" trend..or do you make your own determinations based on the facts of your actual experiences w/the product."

Marketing is a chessgame? WTF?

Can this broad get any nuttier? I'm sure everyone's engaged in a tense strategic battle of wits with the advertizers over whether they have McDonalds or Burger King for lunch.

The Lost creators are playing a stealthy shipping game with us, only hyping the bad shit on the show, trying to peddle the couple that they know people aren't really interested? Say what? Why?

Banshee's forgetting that the DVDs' extras are just the icing on the cake after the horse has already bolted. See, Bansh, I can also horribly mix my metaphors. If you bought the freaking DVDs, then you've already succumbed to the hype and marketing, duh!

The post season commentaries help provide insight and clarification on the working processes of the actors and writers - they aren't a politicking venture designed to keep you guessing on what's coming next. Got that? The DVD's and commentaries will be around long after the show has finished airing and all speculation has mercifully ended.

Anyone eating what this idiot is shoveling needs their gullible little Bubble head examined.

The creative showrunners and the press media have become increasingly positive about the Sawyer/Kate relationship (getting more DVD commentary attention, great reviews and hype everywhere, winning polls etc.) and notably are NOT raving about Jate, NOT hyping it up in any positive way. It's barely registering on their radar at all, in fact.

But they're just working in cahoots with each other to fool us, not wanting to spoil the wonderful surprise for the audience that Jack and Kate really are the OTP?

Gimme a frakking break.

To quote fishbitch Helena's marketing professor:



"If you don't advertise, you don't exist!"




But hey, I've been told that Jack/Kate finally topped a couple poll again after making the TV Guide's Top Ten Most Annoying Couples for 2008.

They won the number one slot at Cinema Blend for Top Five Worst TV Romances:



http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Top-Five-Worst-TV-Romances-12405.html

Credit to Helena for this screen cap of the results so far in the readers poll:



Enjoy, Bubbles. Isn't it great you finally got another media attention? I'm sure you deserve more.

17 comments:

susan14509 said...

Thanks for the entertainment, Fish! And thanks to the Marketing 101 class by Banshee, it's good to see Jack and Kate finally got the marketing they deserve! :)

LostTvFan said...

How great is it to see Jack and Kate finally get the 71% they are entitled to. What a landslide win. Made of awesome. Too bad that other couple that no one likes isn't getting this kind of media attention. If TPTB continue to market poor Sawyer and Kate one of these days Jack and Kate can win this one by an even larger margin.

Anonymous said...

74% by now.

Anonymous said...

LOL! Well, considering that three of those shows are no longer on the air, it's really of worst TV couples in recent TV history. Congrats on making history Jate.

Rove3

Freckles said...

Thank you as always Fish for your awesome entertainment!Finally Jate got their 71%...as the worst couple EVER.Congratulations!

laura-sk said...

Thank you Fish for fishbiscuiting that post. I can't believe jaters fall over every word Banshee pulls out of the thesaurus without seeing what a bunch of BS it is.

- Caprica

Anonymous said...

Banshee keeps selling her BS like Jim Jones did the Kool Aid and the lemmings keep following her off the edge of the cliff. I can't wait for the next sex scene between Kate and Sawyer to see the meltdown that results. I hope they eat her alive for promising them again and again that they have nothing to worry about and Jate is OTP. P.T. Barnum said "There's a sucker born every minute". Suckers!

Anonymous said...

Thank you. I'm a Jater and totally hate that Banshee appeared at FF to hold our hands every five seconds. It's just a TV show. My world does not end if the jate ship sinks.

Seriously, she can go mother other people or learn how to summarize what she wants to say. Or make it not mind numbingly boring.

I didn't need a Marketing 101 explanation. They're the writers. They say what they want. We all know they love mind fraks and the triangle. There, I explained it in three sentences. Go me!

Again, this was awesome. I might not agree with everything you say, but I hate Bubbleheads.

Anonymous said...

Wow, an intelligent, mature jater who can think for themselves...you go girl!!:)Too bad you guys are so few and far between.

Anonymous said...

There's more out there. But I think the bubbleheads might have scared them away from message boards.

flaknitter01 said...

Considering Jate will be pulling in a combined $300k per episode in S5, Foxy & Evi will be lucky if their castmates don't throw them down a well. Can't think of two less sympathetic characters in all of television. Looking forward to the hot blonde mess that is Sawyer & Juliet hitting it hardcore on the beach come February... Sweet....

Anonymous said...

Thank you. I'm a Jater and totally hate that Banshee appeared at FF to hold our hands every five seconds. It's just a TV show. My world does not end if the jate ship sinks.

Seriously, she can go mother other people or learn how to summarize what she wants to say. Or make it not mind numbingly boring.

I didn't need a Marketing 101 explanation. They're the writers. They say what they want. We all know they love mind fraks and the triangle. There, I explained it in three sentences. Go me!

Again, this was awesome. I might not agree with everything you say, but I hate Bubbleheads.


Thank you, I knew there had to be an intelligent Jater out there who watches Lost and actually enjoys the show, not just the clips of Jack put up at YouTube.

Truth be told, the story has taken a turn that is wonderful for Fox, his damaged and tormented Jack suits him and he had done a remarkable job playing that version of Jack. I still don't think he can sell romance, at least not with Evi, but it is a shame they backed off on his relationship with Juliet. There was an interesting dynamics going on there.

I would love to know if you could have gotten behind that relationship or if you will only be happy if the hero gets the girl?

BTW, nice to see that someone inside the Jate community finds Banshee a thesaurus crazed twit with nothing of value to say!

Anonymous said...

Ah man, I don't know how to play chess....whatever will I do?? Oh yea...watch the actual show.;)

Anonymous said...

Considering Jate will be pulling in a combined $300k per episode in S5, Foxy & Evi will be lucky if their castmates don't throw them down a well.

We never heard anything about Evi getting a raise, just that she wanted one. The only douchebag that screwed his castmates over was the always despicable Fox.

talliann said...

Wow. Awesome. Thanks for bringing into light some real articles about how SKate and Jate are being seen.

For me the article in the Top Worst Romances of TV is the very best. Reading that text just made my day. Finally someone writing and saying, in a paper, the truth out loud! *yay*

Anonymous said...

I'm dying of happiness now. :) Thanks for finding the awesome.

Anonymous said...

I'm afraid I sort of agree with the marketing stuff.This season sucked for Skate (what did they have, 3 episodes where they had more than 2 lines with each other?)

TPTB know that, obviously, and also know that there are millions of Skaters out there and don't want to lose ratings/ $ in DVD sales.

Any comparison between the ratings of a Skate heavy episode vs a Jate heavy one is blatant. Someone better at these things than I could certainly prove this. I'm willing to bet the skate heavy ones are all in the top 10 ratings wise of the whole series.

In any case, TPTB have obviously noticed that promoting Skate brings in the ratings, I Do had one of the highest I think, whereas that RIDICULOUS Jate video ABC commercial brought in one of the lowest rated shows ever. Someone gets paid alot to notcie these trends I'm sure, and that's why they wouldn't even HINT at SNBH in any commercials or promos or spoilers...they saved it until the last minute because they already saw the fallout of how many people were sick at the idea of Jack's appendicitis and throw in a Jate kiss/engagement and forget it. No one would stay up until 10:00 for that.

I just hope that S5 gets Skate back into the forefront and they follow up with some really great story with them, and not just pimp them for the ratings Jate can never bring in.