The History of Skate versus Jate
Here's a wonderful factual pictorial history with comparisons and contrasts of the romance between our favorite lovebirds Kate and Sawyer versus the questionably loving couple Kate and Jack...I guess Jate had to try. Posted by susan14509 at the Fishelage:
"I was thinking about all the Jate from SNBH. From the time we found out Sawyer wasn’t getting off the island and Jack and Kate did, I thought they’d get together. I don't like it, but it always made sense to me, for them to bond over their common experiences, and if Sawyer is presumed dead, Kate has no reason to not move on. But I never expected it to be all rushed into one episode, and without a sex scene, without any post-coital cuddling, without a morning wake up kiss scene, and a proposal without any “I love you” declarations. If I was a Jater I would be really disappointed. If, as TPTB say, the term 'flash' becomes irrelevant, then we can hope they won't be going back and showing any of that in FBs either.
So I decided to compare some of the romantic/kissing scenes between Skate and Jate. The Jate's not so bad in context because it's clear who TPTB are trying to show as the OTP.
Sawyer and Kate got the first kiss on the show, day 9 on the island. Confidence Man aired 11/10/04. Three and a half years later, that kiss is still being talked about in the media. And according to TV Guide, the next one might make this one 'pale in comparison'.
Kate kissed Jack on day 49 in What Kate did a year later on 11/30/05. I am sure it must have been mentioned…somewhere…at least once… by someone other than the Jaters. The Kiss and Run….
The week before that fateful kiss that Kate later apologized for, on 11/23/05 in Collision, day 48, she had kissed Sawyer on the forehead as she was softly whispering to him, willing him to hear her and take the antibiotic to get well.
Then came season three, and on 10/11/06 in The Glass Ballerina, day 69, Sawyer surprised Kate by swooping in and planting a re-hydrating passionate kiss on her. And even at a time like that, surprised, and with all the Others watching, Kate couldn't keep her tongue to herself.
Two episodes later in I Do, on 11/8/06, day 72-73, Kate was determined to free Sawyer before Pickett killed him, and an argument ensued leading to Sawyer revealing to Kate that there are two islands.
That argument could be compared to the Jate pre-kiss from the year before, with different reactions and certainly different results.
The results of the Skate argument…
And we were happily surprised by the post-coital scene and Sawyer’s grand declaration of “I love you, too” in response to Kate’s silent confirmation that she does love him.
So we can compare that to Jack and Kate’s post-coital scene…
But Jack and Kate did get a happy reunion on day 80 in The Man From Tallahassee on 3/21/07….
Oh…well… that probably wasn’t so happy after all. But their second one was…
Ah, well, third time’s a charm on day 82 in Left Behind on 4/4/07….
Three strikes and they’re out.
This is what a happy reunion looks like on 4/11/07 in One of Us on day 83…
On 4/18/07 in Catch 22, day 84, Kate went to Sawyer’s tent for some late night loving. Disregarding whatever reason initially led her there, the fact is, Sawyer is the one she went to.
In The Brig on 5/2/07, Day 89, Sawyer is asleep, assumingly post-coital, and Kate’s 'old habits' are kicking in, and she gets up to leave.
But Kate is over her old habits two years in the future, and she doesn’t leave Jacksus after sex, uh, jex….
So maybe she does still have a few 'old habits' to get over.
And in The Economist on 2/14/08, day 92, Sawyer proposed to Kate. Not exactly the conventional way, but he was sincere, and it was about them.
Compared to the sincerity of the Jate proposal which was all about validating Jack's insecurity over being a good daddy.
Here we have Sawyer telling Kate she can stay with him and he’ll keep her safe. They kiss and fall to the bed. It sure was implied that they would be making love after that, but we know that it didn’t lead to sex. On day 93 in Eggtown, 2/21/08...
In the Jate scene, Kate told Jack she was glad he was there and they kissed and he carried her down the hall. For all we know, that didn’t lead to jex either.
If the bubbles can ignore things that are shown on screen, we can ignore things that aren’t. If we didn’t see it, it didn’t happen.
And the next day, there was the sweet wake-up scene…
And the Jate morning wake up scene… Oh yeah, there was no Jate wake up scene, it was just Jack, only Jack…
Where was Kate… already in the shower. Washing off the jooties? Or thinking of Sawyer?
And then Jack had to come in and ruin her Sawyer shower fantasy thoughts. Put on your Monica face, Kate.
And the “I’m lying to you but I can fool you with a kiss” (or a sat phone hug)…
Compared to a two second look that Sawyer sees right through…
Sawyer and Kate just ‘get’ each other.
And even without seeing the actual kiss, it's easy to see how much they are connected. The chemistry radiates from them.
The kiss itself will be spectacular!
Disclaimer: Not all gifs were made by me. I made most of them, but some I found and I don’t know where or who made them to credit. If they belong to you, and you don’t want me to use them, let me know and I’ll delete and make my own from the necessary scenes."